wedding photo : I thought I'd relate an experience I had while attendinga friend's wedding this past weekend:As is usually the case with friends' weddings, I usuallybring my camera along, for the enjoyment of taking pictures,and for the subsequent satisfaction of giving my photographsto my friends, those who are getting married as well as thosewho attend. So, before the outdoor ceremony, I was walkingaround the site, scouting for good, unconventional shots. Iwas carrying my usual set of equipment for candids: Nikon FE2,Nikkor 35-105, Stroboframe QuickFlip 35, Sunpak 422D.Out of the blue, I was approached by the wedding party's officialphotographer. He told me that their contract stipulates thatonce the ceremony begins, no one else will be allowed tophotograph anything, the ceremony, the reception line, thereception, etc. I asked for clarification, and he explainedthat he didn't want the risk of the bride and groom receivingphotographs as gifts and then not wanting to purchase hisprints. He even said that with "an outfit like that" my photoquality would be almost as good as his (he had a Bronica). Itold him that I didn't think so.Anyway, we talked some more, and I explained that at other weddingsI had been to, I never attempted to intrude on the posed shots, andthat I strove for candids that the official photographer usuallydoesn't cover. After a few minutes of cordial conversation, hesoftened on his stance and asked simply that I let him get hisshot (e.g., the cake cutting) before I get mine. With that, hewas satisfied, though I walked away a bit unbalanced.
wedding photo : During the reception, I felt much more free to take shots, and henever did say anything more to me except, as he was leaving,"Take a lot of shots!"My question to netland: is such a contract, stipulating that no one elsecan photograph, common practice among wedding photographers? I'venever experienced this stringent (insecure?) a photographer at anyother wedding I've been to.From: ()Subject: Re: Wedding photo contracts? Newsgroups: , Date: 1994-08-08 09:29:38 PST In article Khiem Do, writes:Yes, such contracts do exist and the wedding couple should have told youabout it ahead of time. The reason is the photographer makes most of hisprofits with the album sales after the Wedding and not with the shootingcosts. The sales are lost since you will give your prints within a weekor while his prints/album may take a month or longer. The married couplemay opt for the cheaper route for the bulk of the photographs and reducetheir order of professional shots.While you were thinking that your photos were only a gift to the Weddingcouple, you represented "a clear and present danger" to the professionalphotographers living. The photographer may have reacted to you in angerof precieved lost sales from past Weddings to people just trying to takea couple of pictures. wedding photo : But, you should consider that a clever and professional wedding photographershould shoot pictures with a lot better quality than even above the average amateur, otherwise I understand very well why he will be out of business soon.**************************************** ************************Mats Carlin SINTEF Instrumentation Tel.+47 22 06 79 10Box 124 Blindern Fax.+47 22 06 73 50N-0314 Oslo Email: NORWAY********************************** ******************************The reason we don't want other photogs shooting is that it detracts from the quality of the pictures we are trying to provide. The day I start to worry about the quality of a guest's pictures is the day I need to leave the business. I just don't want people jumping in front of me all day.Think of it this way, if you were having brain surgery, would you really want your pre-med nephew/niece helping out in the OR. To me amateurs with cameras at a wedding are about as dangerous as that nephew/niece with a scalpel in hand, doing what they can with the best intentions.-- Robert M. Slugg Meyer 5-109 Johns Hopkins Hospital fax (410) 955-1032 You should also consider getting rid of those pesky guests then. Even the ones without the cameras tend to get in the way. wedding photo : Oh, come on! Wedding photography is *not* brain surgery! (orrocket science, for that matter ;>) The problem with most weddingphotographers, as I see it, is that they think that the wedding is therefor them to shoot, instead of them being there to shoot the wedding. What would you think if a caterer accosted a wedding guest forbringing their own food for whatever reason (religious, baby, etc..) andinsisting that they had a signed contract saying that no other food wasallowed? This example is just as offensive to me as a photographerinsisting that no one else take pictures, for whatever reason. Do thesephotographers sign contracts saying that they will not shove, move, orotherwise annoy guests? I have seen some *very* rude weddingphotographers, those who shove people out of the way, or just plain makespectacles of themselves, all the while justifying themselves that theyhave to get the shot. Frankly I have faced much worse obstacles than Aunt Maime with apoint and shoot. Try shooting spot news for a while, and you will learnvery quickly how to remain unobtrusive while getting the picture (not tomention caption info) and not getting killed by someone who decided thatthey didn't want you to take a picture. wedding photo : As for my wedding, damn near everyone there will have a camera(I'll admit that I like the QuickSnap-at-every-table thing) and theofficial photographer will be held accountable to treat guests likeguests, and realize that they are here for us, not we for her/him. Bob<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<& lt;"Bite me! It's Fun!>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bob O'Shaughnessy, ( ) | "The one thing that the <I | world will not have (prefered) /#%#\ | enough of is72632,432 (Compu$erve) ^ #%# ^ | exaggeration""A proud sentient, since 1970" / | \ | -Salvador Dali123456799012345679901234567990123456 7990123456799012345679901234567901234567 990The thing to remember here is the wedding is that of the brideand groom. They should decide what they want, and if necessary, remind the photographer, caterer, etc. that they (the happycouple) are the clients. We turned down the first photographer(and the first band) because they wouldn't abide our wishes.FWIW, our agreement was that:- During the wedding, guests were allowed to take photos, but not block the aisle.- At the reception, for staged shots, the photographer would ask the audience to please wait until he got his shot, then the audience would have a chance to shoot the staged scene.- For candid shots, anyone could shoot at any time.
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